My Facebook friend's list just got smaller. Mrs. A unfriended me after a 'discussion' I have copied and pasted here to share as another study.
I love her. Both she and her husband have studied the Word but like many before them have followed the rabbit trail into Judaism, which I am beginning to see as the Wide Gate for all religious beliefs to enter. She and I have had several good discussions in the past but I guess me pointing out the facts about the role of Jerusalem as capital of Israel was the last straw.
Mrs. A posted:
The six day war of 1967 led to Israel getting Jerusalem back after 2000 years. Fifty years later Trump becomes President. Could he symbolize a trump being blown? For another Jubilee? "You shall count seven weeks of years, seven times seven years, so that the time of the seven weeks of years shall give you forty-nine years. Then you shall sound the loud trumpet on the tenth day of the seventh month. On the Day of Atonement you shall sound the trumpet throughout all your land." Leviticus 25:8-9
On December 6, 2017, US President Donald Trump announced the United States recognition of Jerusalem as the capital of Israel and ordered the planning of the relocation of the U.S. Embassy in Israel from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem.
My Reply:
Spiritually, Jerusalem is the center of the world according to our Creator. Historically, Jerusalem was capital of the State of Israel beginning again in 1948 although became divided with the western section being the capital. The Six Day War reunited the city. In 1980 the Knesset passed the Basic Law - Jerusalem, which restated Israel's rights and obligations concerning the capital.
All Trump did was acknowledge the existing fact and decide to relocate the American Embassy. Two years later and from what I understand, the ambassador and his staff have moved to the US Consulate in Jerusalem but the main branch is still in Tel Aviv.
(Basically, I pointed out it didn't take 2000 years for Israel to get Jerusalem back. Her reply switches from Israel to the world's opinion of Jerusalem)
Mrs. A:
The world never recognized Jerusalem as Israel’s capital and even today its divided. (seems she copied and pasted the following - I deleted the number references.)
After 1948, since the old walled city in its entirety was to the east of the armistice line, Jordan was able to take control of all the holy places therein. While Muslim holy sites were maintained and renovated, contrary to the terms of the armistice agreement, Jews were denied access to Jewish holy sites, many of which were destroyed or desecrated. Jordan allowed only very limited access to Christian holy sites, and restrictions were imposed on the Christian population that led many to leave the city. Of the 58 synagogues in the Old City, half were either razed or converted to stables and hen-houses over the course of the next 19 years, including the Hurva and the Tiferet Yisrael Synagogue. The 3,000-year-old Mount of Olives Jewish Cemetery was desecrated, with gravestones used to build roads, latrines and Jordanian army fortifications. 38,000 graves in the Jewish Cemetery were destroyed, and Jews were forbidden from being buried there. The Western Wall was transformed into an exclusively Muslim holy site associated with al-Buraq. Israeli authorities neglected to protect the tombs in the Muslim Mamilla Cemetery in West Jerusalem, which contains the remains of figures from the early Islamic period, facilitating the creation of a parking lot and public lavatories in 1964. Many other historic and religiously significant buildings were demolished and replaced by modern structures during the Jordanian occupation. During this period, the Dome of the Rock and Al-Aqsa Mosque underwent major renovations.
To me all that information didn't explain anything about the Jubilee or Trump or really apply to what we were talking about. Mostly it highlights 'holy sites'. After she posted the above she unfriended me and this is the reply I wasn't allowed to post:
Yes, I mentioned it was divided and you have ignored the fact the Trump really hasn't moved the embassy to Jerusalem. The Jubilee Year is a year of release, not one of making Jerusalem the modern day capital of the nation state of Israel. We are called to come out of the world system (Babylon) so if the world does not recognize Jerusalem then it is no big deal. We who are Set Apart and follow Y'shua do recognize the importance of Jerusalem as we have been told the end from the beginning.
Since I couldn't post any more I messaged her and asked if she closed comments on this thread. Mrs. A sent me a private message telling me why she unfriended me:
The vast majority of the people on my Facebook are Baptist, Christians, and they don’t get any of this. I don’t want them just blowing everything off. It’s not going to help them if someone is making comments that sound like they disagree with what I am saying. It’s important they start reading the Bible for themselves and not just following the path that has taken them away from God. They are going to have to turn back and return to the roots of the Christian faith as what was taught in the very beginning before evil men came in and corrupted it. Act chapter 11 talks about when the Church in Antioch disciples were first called Christians. It was when Peter first went to talk to them after the dream he had to not call what God called clean unclean. It was the beginning of the ministry to the non Jews. So because of where most of these people are if any of them are even reading anything I post I felt I needed to take you off, sorry, I hope you understand the reason behind it.
I was quietly amazed at her choice to take me out of the picture and I responded as such, including: .... but after seeing your Jonathan Cahn promo posted on your timeline I see the time was right. Maybe if I ranted all the time I could understand you not wanting me to be around and disrupting your space - I could understand that. I sound like I disagree because you sometimes cause me to 'raise an eyebrow', which is good because I always take what you reference right back to Scriptures, and that is when I can see where you're coming from and/or offer up comments to help shine the light a little brighter - we all need it from time to time because we are all still learning. Many times you and I are in agreement but sometimes you go a little too deep into the realm of Jewish tradition. You are not going to save your 'christian' friends all by yourself, or by censoring comments that you don't agree with. I thought that we have always had fair discussions, even when we don't see eye to eye on some topics. We both know not everyone is going to 'get it'. Thanks for the time we did have because I love being in conversation about Scriptures and so few take the time.
(sent this message to her 9/13/2019)
I am sorry to see how comfortable she and her husband have become with the tradition ladened religion of Judaism. Some day, hopefully, they will 'get it', too. It seems she wants folks to just read and accept her opinion without question. Our Heavenly Father has never been about Christianity or the Church nor did Set Apart believers call themselves Christians - it is about Faith, which Y'shua asked if there would be any when he returns.
How can anyone think they are teaching their 'christian' friends about the Hebrew origins of Scriptures while still promoting the church? I do understand a gentle approach toward Gentiles when trying to introduce them to YHWH but if you can't get them to ask questions, or get their genuine interest, then what is the use other than spreading seeds and letting them fall where they may. Trying to tie a Jubilee year in with Trump is really far-fetched.
(sent this message to her 9/13/2019)
I am sorry to see how comfortable she and her husband have become with the tradition ladened religion of Judaism. Some day, hopefully, they will 'get it', too. It seems she wants folks to just read and accept her opinion without question. Our Heavenly Father has never been about Christianity or the Church nor did Set Apart believers call themselves Christians - it is about Faith, which Y'shua asked if there would be any when he returns.
How can anyone think they are teaching their 'christian' friends about the Hebrew origins of Scriptures while still promoting the church? I do understand a gentle approach toward Gentiles when trying to introduce them to YHWH but if you can't get them to ask questions, or get their genuine interest, then what is the use other than spreading seeds and letting them fall where they may. Trying to tie a Jubilee year in with Trump is really far-fetched.
Please Note:
Acts Chapter 11 verse 26 from the Aramaic English New Testament:
When he found him (Paul), he brought him with him to Antiochia. And they gathered as one, a whole year, and they taught many people in the congregation. From that time the disciples in Antioch were first called Kristianay. (The Apostles do not call themselves Kristianay. They are members of The Way, referred to as Netzarim. It was the Gentiles in Antioch who coined the term 'Kristyane' a greek term for "Messianics").
Romans 11:25 ~For I want to let you know about this secret, brothers, so that you will not claim to be wiser than you are: Stubbornness has come to part of Israel until the full number of the Gentiles comes to faith.
