Showing posts with label anger. Show all posts
Showing posts with label anger. Show all posts

Sunday, May 6, 2018

Contradictions? On the Contrary...

This is my response to those who believe Scriptures contain "contradictions and blatant lies".  I have copied from a FB discussion several examples that 'they' say are in support of the contradictions and posted them here as the framework for this study to get to the truth of the matter.
My reply to Mr. RG: After reading your shared post by (FRR) I have to tell ya, she is only presenting a fraction of the whole picture, like picking up one piece of a puzzle and coming to a conclusion of the end result without considering all the pieces put together. Not providing chapter and/or verse is an effective tactic to deter folks from reading it for themselves, and as you will see, I did take the time to search them out.
"There are MANY contradictions in the text we know as the kjv. " FRR
(and I say avoid the KJV whenever you can)  
Quote: THE KING JAMES VERSION - The story gets interesting when King James I of England, or Queen James as he was often referred to because of homosexual lifestyle, decided to authorize his own translation of the Bible in 1611. The other versions fell to his disfavor because their footnotes failed to honor the King. To correct this, he gathered fifty-four scholars and gave them fifteen edicts to follow as they translated and published his Authorized Version. The first edict was that they use the Bishop's Bible (which used "congregation") with as few changes as possible. The third edict specified that, in select places, they were to use the word "church," and not "congregation," in place of ekklesia. His fourteenth edict stated that they could use the Tyndale, Matthew, Coverdale, the Great Bible (also called the Whitchurch, Cranmer, and Cromwell Bible), and the Geneva versions of the Bible wherever they were closer to their accessible manuscripts. (end quote)
FRR wrote: Abba says... we are not to shed innocent blood.
Deuteronomy 19: tells us about involuntary manslaughter = causing the death of another by accident. Yah had His people set aside three cities a manslayer could flee to in order to avoid being killed by one who wants to avenge the death of that innocent victim. Verse 11 tells us about premeditated murder = one who lies in wait and kills another then flees to one of these towns, the elders were to bring him back to the 'avenger' to be put to death, and show no pity. In this they would purge Israel of the blood of the innocent and it would go well with them. 
FRR wrote: He gave us care of the animals. 
Genesis 1:28 on the sixth day of creation Yah tells Adam and Eve they are to rule the fish of the sea, the birds of the sky and all the living things that creep on earth. Mankind was given dominion over the animals, yes, to care for the domestic ones as tending cattle and flocks and herds and how to efficiently slaughter them when the time came. The wicked treated animals with cruelty.
FRR wrote: He hated the pagan practice of human sacrifice.
Yah hated all pagan practices of which human sacrifice was just one aspect. He hated Amalek, too, those who creep around the edge of the camp taking what they can. There were no human sacrifices by those who lived by the rules of the Creator. His Son was sentenced to death and left to die, being hung on a Roman death device - he was not a sacrifice.
FRR wrote: He said make no graven image of anything in heaven, on earth, or in the waters.
Nor to bow down to them. If they made these things it would become a temptation to worship them, as the pagans were doing. Yah was separating us from the rest of the world. The golden calf incident comes to mind.... and again it His rules are opposite of pagan traditions and their various trinkets and idols worn or set on shelves etc... Abraham's dad comes to mind, who was a pagan idol worshiper. The cherubim on the cover to the ark were made before the ten commandments were given at Mount Sinai Exodus 25:17 tells us about the cover for the ark which was made of gold and had two cherubim, one at each end of the cover. Yah commanded these to be made and it is where He would meet with Moses and tell him all that He would command concerning the Israelite people.  Are we going to argue with our Creator about His furniture? This object was hidden from view of the people most times and would not be an object of worship for them. The command not to make images was given after the fact.
FRR: We are to have no other gods.
None - zip - zero - nada along with or besides our Creator who is the only Living Elohim. But the pagans had a 'god' for any thing or reason. YHWH knew they would be out there. His Instructions are for our well being and protection.
FRR: And he detested the feasts and festivals.
He only came to detest these things when man started doing them his own way instead of Yah's way. It was all for show and nothing from their hearts. I refer back to Cain and Abel. Today we have many man-made holidays detested by our Father. He gave us feast days and set times to observe through the generations and most folks don't even give them a second thought.
FRR: He never commanded sacrifices or burnt offerings. And the eating of dead flesh was forbidden. 
Read Leviticus for all the reasons they offered burnt offerings, drink offerings, bread offerings, incense etc... much of which was to take care of the Levites, the priests and their families. After the flood is when meat was added to the list of designated clean foods of which to eat. Meat was to be roasted or boiled and not eaten raw or with the blood.

FRR: He also FROM THE BEGINNING created marriage for one man and one woman. Anything outside of that was adultery. 
Adultery did happen and had its consequences.  
FRR goes on to point out: Yet the very bible we have today not only says the above but ALSO says that Abba commanded...

  • The sacrificing of innocent animals and the eating of their dead flesh. 
  • The murder of men, women, children and animals as well as the rape of women. 
  • The making of an image of angels upon the mercy seat.
  • The worship of a man over him. 
  • Human blood sacrifice paved the way to redemption. 
  • Ritualistic feasts to be observed during which the very abominations Israel was punished numerous times for are committed. 
  • And adultery is acceptable in epic proportions.
Yeah... ya can't get past thou shall not kill when ur killing innocent animals and sacrificing people. 
You shall not commit premeditated murder is the better understanding and helps define the difference between to kill and to murder. Anyone who sacrificed their children to Molech were obviously not obeying His Commandment - human sacrifice is a pagan tradition. His Commandments apply only to the house of Israel and those who give up their old pagan ways and live according to His Instructions. All non-believers lived by their own rules.
Ya can't get past no graven images with angels on the mercy seat.
As I noted above, the ark of the covenant was made before the the command against making graven images. This seat was the place where YHWH would meet with Moses, and later only the High Priest would enter this set apart place once a year.
Ya can't get past no other gods when ya declare a man a diety and pray to him.
I understand this one as it is part of a false teaching if she is referring to Y'shua as a deity. And he was not a god on this earth.
Ya can't get past "one man one woman, two becoming ONE" with multiple wives.
Again, YHWH was setting His people apart from the pagan 'norm'. These things definitely did not gel overnight. And consequences befell believers who went against His rules.  
Ya can't rationalize these things away like they aren't there or say it's a lack of understanding when the blatantly obvious is before us. It just doesn't wash.
Only by reading Scriptures, Genesis through Revelation, paying good attention to what is written in Leviticus and summarized in Deuteronomy, can we begin to understand what's going on. The whole book is a harmonious cycle, from beginning to end and back again. 
FRR: And when Messiah himself tells us WHY he came and quotes the prophets who have ALL spoken of these contradictions and blatant lies... the picture is quite clear." - FRR
On the contrary, the picture is not at all clear in her eyes. I pray I have shared enough that you, too, can see the error of only choosing bits and pieces and ignoring the rest.

Update - 5/7/2018

Later, the next day ...  Mr. G challenges me to study more references - Yippee!

He says: "Here are some more scriptures for you to try to explain away. You should keep in mind Yahuah says He changes not."
"Then Shemu’ĕl said, “Does יהוה delight in burnt offerings and slaughterings, as in obeying the voice of יהוה? Look, to obey is better than an offering, to heed is better than the fat of rams."  Shemu’ĕl Aleph (1 Samuel) 15:22 TS2009
This should be self explanatory, key words: 'delight' 'obeying' 'to heed'. Being told that obedience is better than an offering is not saying the offering is done away with. If we are heeding His Instructions we would be keeping that which is laid out in Leviticus.  If we were obeying Him we would have no need of offerings to cover our sin or guilt etc... but we would keep in tune with His moedim. These offerings were, in part, to take care of the Levites and the priesthood. Yahweh's Instructions for His people have not changed. When He says forever and all generations, that includes His Set Apart believers in today's world. Obviously we need to adapt and there are many things we cannot observe physically in performing some rituals, but spiritually we have not forgotten our Father, nor His Instructions in Righteousness. And we are not to substitute what we think is right in place of what we've been instructed. It is better to obey and heed our Father than to think we need to run off somewhere and offer the fat of rams, thinking He will be pleased with us.  Nadab and Abihu come to mind. 

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"I have hated, I have despised your festivals, and I am not pleased with your assemblies. “Though you offer Me burnt offerings and your grain offerings, I do not accept them, nor do I look on your fattened peace offerings. “Take away from Me the noise of your songs, for I do not hear the sound of your stringed instruments. “And let right-ruling roll on like water, and righteousness like a mighty stream. “You brought Me slaughterings and meal offerings in the wilderness for forty years, O house of Yisra’ĕl, but you took up Sikkuth your sovereign and Kiyyun, your idols, your astral mighty ones , which you made for yourselves!"  Amos 5:21‭-‬26 TS2009
The writings in Amos 5 tell us once again about the Creator's anger with the House of Israel because they have not turned back to Him. This is still true in this day and age for anyone who has turned away from Him. Fair warning has been given us throughout Scriptures and we know what happens to those who rebel. 5:18 ~ Ah, you who wish for the day of YHWH! Why should you want the day.... it shall be darkness... blackest night without a glimmer. Verse 21 (it is no wonder He loathes "their festivals", traditional holidays of man's own imagination.) I am not appeased by your solemn assemblies.  If you offer Me burnt offerings or your meal offerings, I will not accept them; I will pay no heed to your gifts of fatlings.  Spare Me the sound of "your hymns", don't let Me hear the music of your lutes. 24 ~ But let justice well up like water, righteousness like an unfailing stream.  Did you offer sacrifice and oblation to Me those forty years in the wilderness, O House of Israel?  
Deuteronomy 8:2 ~ You shall remember all the way which YHWH your Elohim has led you in the wilderness these forty years, that He might humble you, testing you, to know what was in your heart, whether you would keep His commandments or not.
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"Of what use to Me are your many slaughterings?” declares יהוה. “I have had enough of burnt offerings of rams and the fat of fed beasts. I do not delight in the blood of bulls, or of lambs or goats. “When you come to appear before Me, who has required this from your hand, to trample My courtyards? “Stop bringing futile offerings, incense, it is an abomination to Me. New Moons, Sabbaths, the calling of meetings – I am unable to bear unrighteousness and assembly. “My being hates your New Moons and your appointed times, they are a trouble to Me, I am weary of bearing them. “And when you spread out your hands, I hide My eyes from you; even though you make many prayers, I do not hear. Your hands have become filled with blood."  (Isaiah) 1:11‭-‬15 TS2009
I can totally understand why our heavenly Father said this in Isaiah 7:11 ~ "What need have I of all your sacrifices... I have no delight that you come to appear before Me - trample My courts no more. Bringing your offerings is futile, incense is offensive to Me. New moon and Sabbath you proclaim solemnities and assemble with wickedness I cannot tolerate. Your new moons (man's calendar months) and your fixed seasons (man's traditions and substitutes for Yah's moedim) fill Me with loathing - they have become a burden to Me, no longer a joy. When you lift up your hands in false praise and worship I will turn My Eyes away from you."

Satan has a counterfeit for nearly everything put forth by our Creator. The example of Jeroboam is what happened in 1 Kings 25 when he (out of fear of losing his position of power) convinced the Israelites (who had chosen him as king) that they did not need to go to Jerusalem to worship YHWH anymore. Jeroboam had built 2 temples, one in Bethel and the other in Dan, in which he had a golden calf placed in each, telling them 'this is your god'. He convinced them that 'God was Everywhere' and it was okay to worship Him anywhere. This is not according to the Word of Yahweh! Jeroboam also made cult places and appointed priests from the ranks of people who were not descendants of Levi. This same example applies to religious traditions of today when teachers and leaders and preachers convince folks of things that just aren't right in comparison to what is actually recorded in Scriptures.
Deuteronomy 8:2 ~ You shall remember all the way which YHWH your Elohim has led you in the wilderness these forty years, that He might humble you, testing you, to know what was in your heart, whether you would keep His commandments or not.Ezekiel 20:21 ~ But the children rebelled against Me; they did not walk in My statutes, nor were they careful to observe My ordinances, by which, if a man observes them, he will live; they profaned My sabbaths. So I resolved to pour out My wrath on them, to accomplish My anger against them in the wilderness.
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"And after the sixty-two weeks Messiah shall be cut off and have naught. And the people of a coming prince shall destroy the city and the set-apart place. And the end of it is with a flood. And wastes are decreed, and fighting until the end. “And he shall confirm a covenant with many for one week. And in the middle of the week he shall put an end to slaughtering and meal offering. And on the wing of abominations he shall lay waste, even until the complete end and that which is decreed is poured out on the one who lays waste.”  (Daniel) 9:26‭-‬27 TS2009
One Of My Favorites in the study of the end time scenario!  The day is coming when the final world leader will avoid WWIII; will allow temple service including sacrifices again and the 'Jews' will be happy, either on the temple mount or nearby.  For 3-1/2 years this false sense of security will prevail until the abomination that causes desolation walks in and calls himself 'god'. I believe this is when Satan possesses this final world leader. This guy then puts an end to all the happiness and the final 3-1/2 years of tribulation play out.

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"Guard your steps when you go to the House of Elohim. And draw near to listen rather than to give the slaughtering of fools, for they do not know that they do evil."  (Ecclesiastes) 5:1
Fools do not know that they do evil - Solomon should be well aware of that.
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"With what shall I come before יהוה, bow myself before the high Elohim? Shall I come before Him with burnt offerings, with calves a year old? Is יהוה pleased with thousands of rams or ten thousand rivers of oil? Shall I give my first-born for my transgression, the fruit of my body for the sin of my being? He has declared to you, O man, what is good. And what does יהוה require of you but to do right, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your Elohim?"  (Micah) 6:6‭-‬8 TS2009
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"But go and learn what this means, ‘I desire compassion and not offering.’ For I did not come to call the righteous to repentance, but sinners.”  (Matthew) 9:13 TS2009
“And if you had known what this means, ‘I desire compassion and not offering,’ you would not have condemned the blameless."  (Matthew) 12:7
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Hebrews 10... in (Yah's Instructions for His Creation) there was a shadow of the good things to come; not the substance (reality) of the things themselves. Therefore, although the same sacrifices were offered every year, they could never perfect those who offered them. For, if they had perfected them, they would have, long ago, stopped making offerings because they (would have been cleansed once for all, and would no longer have felt guilty for their sins. But in those sacrifices, every year they recognized their sins). For the blood of bulls and of goats cannot purge away sins. Therefore, when Yahshua came into the world, he said:
“Sacrifice and offering you did not desire,
but a body you prepared for me;
with burnt offerings and sin offerings
you were not pleased.
I said, ‘Here I am—it is written about me in the scroll—
I have come to do your will, O Elohim"

Hebrews 10:11
For every high priest who stood and ministered daily, offered again and again the same sacrifices which never were sufficient to purge away sins. But this Priest (Yahshua the Anointed One) offered one sacrifice for sins, and forever sat down at the right hand of Elohim (where he waits for his kingdom to come). For by one offering he has perfected forever, them who are sanctified by him. After which the Ruach haKodesh testifies by saying, This is the covenant I will give them after those days; says Master Yahweh... I will put my Torah/Instructions into their minds and inscribe it on their hearts and their iniquity and sins I will not remember against them.

Now, where there is a forgiveness of sins there is no offering for sin demanded.

"I call upon you, therefore, brothers, through the compassion of Elohim, to present your bodies a living offering – set-apart, well-pleasing to Elohim – your reasonable worship." 
(Romans)
Hebrews 10 (lightly paraphrased)
We choose to accept Y'shua as our High Priest who offered a one time sacrifice for sins, who sits forever at the right hand of Elohim where he waits until his foes are placed as a footstool under his feet. For, by one offering (himself), he has perfected forever them who are sanctified (set apart) by him. And the Ruach haKodesh also testifies to us by saying: This is the covenant which I will give them after those days, says Master YHWH: I will put my Torah into their minds and inscribe it on their hearts and their iniquity and their sins I will not remember against them. Now, where there is a forgiveness of sins there is no offering for sin demanded. We have therefore my Brothers assurance of entering into the sanctuary by the blood of Y'shua and by a path of life.
For the most part, the practice of sacrifice stopped in the year 70 AD, when the Roman army destroyed the Temple in Jerusalem, the place where sacrifices were offered. The practice was briefly resumed during the Jewish War of 132-135 AD, but was ended permanently after that war was lost.
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It appears to me that which some folks believe are contradictions in Scriptures fall into a pattern of not accepting the fact that our loving Father, Yahweh, gets very angry with us and He verbalized His emotions through His servants, the prophets.  He gets so angry with us that He had to cause rainbows to show up so He would remember His promise not to destroy all flesh with a flood again. His anger is roused time and again, but He always offer a way out IF we repent of our wrong doings and return to Him. This was the deal right from the beginning and hasn't changed.